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Tuesday
Nov202007

Take a Stitch Tuesday week 47

Next years challenge
I have been wondering about next years challenge.  I am looking for a challenge that was a adaptable to various textile mediums and flexible for those who are busy. Something that if people are in to crazy quilting you can adapt it to that, if you are into fabric postcards, ATC's, beading, regular quilting, sewing, hand embroidery what ever is your cup of tea you can adapt the challenge to the medium you work in. I would also like the challenge to run over a year (it is easier than thinking up something new ever couple of months). When I put out some ideas some people responded positively while others were not so keen. I have don a head count based on the comments left and floating a few ideas to see how people respond. I will do a head count again and I will go with the majority. So leave a comment and have a vote.

There has to be a certain number of active people in any challenge to develop and maintain a group dynamic. With any challenge there are always people who mean to do it and then life gets in the way. It is really necessary to get a lot of people involved at the start so that by the end there are enough of a group left to still be stimulating. So it is really important that people like the idea of what ever is proposed. Do post your ideas as I will be listening.

Looking at the responses in my comments over those two posts there were two types of challenges people liked.

A Design Challenge
The idea is a challenge that involved a call and response a bit like TAST but this time suggesting a design element to use each week or month. For instance Vero suggested a monthly challenge which consisted of me suggesting 4-6 stitches that could be combined in a piece. Virginia suggested a theme or colour scheme and Mady suggested that a challenge could involve broad types of needlework incorporated into projects such as couching, blackwork, beading, pulled stitches. Kate suggested a colour or combination of colors, a shape, a seasonal theme, a mood. Tenar suggested announcing several related stitches and one design topic. These ideas have legs as people could use them in any project and if I did not have to write a tutorial I could point to resources online each week or month. I have tallied up the previous comments and 13 people liked this idea. One question with this would people want it weekly or monthly?

Getting projects stitched
The other type of challenge with 24 people saying they liked the idea was the decluttering/UFO/destashing/working on projects and getting it stitched challenge. People liked the idea but hated the idea of a weigh in so I have ditched that (although for a laugh I might amuse you all with my own personal weigh in). So thinking this through perhaps we can turn it into a decluttering and "use your stash creatively" challenge. Kathy suggested to list of twelve items to work on throughout the year to complete. Items could be one CQ block so that by the end of the year you have a quilt top. This is a good idea as working a set number of projects could be adapted to all textile mediums and the only requirement could be that people would need to declare what they wanted to make and regularly post an image, leave a comment here to be part of it. A declared projects challenge would enable us to watch developments right across the spectrum of textile practice. Decluttering could be defined as using stash creatively, finishing projects of any sort including current ones because finishes keeps clutter at bay which turns decluttering into a “getting things stitched” year. The only thing I would suggest is a weekly progress report rather than a monthly report as a weekly report would mean people keep their goals in mind.

A “call and response” in a challenge plays an important role in keeping people thinking. Both TAST and 100 details for 100 days had a good activity level because a call and response situation allows people to respond regularly, post an image and join in. Call and response part of this challenge is a bit more of a challenge! Helen Ann suggested that I post images of a piece of work a wisp or stash finish or new project and people respond with theirs. Most did not like the idea of a fiber diet I initially suggested because the weigh in at the start and end of the year sounded like too much work so I ditched the idea. I thought it would be a a good measure of progress, some accountability in order to get outstanding projects completed other than simply posting to blogs has anyone got any ideas as to how a challenge might be measured? Number of projects is not really an option because there is a great difference between completing a quilt and a postcard. I am looking for ways people can see their own progress and realise they are achieving what they want to achieve. All ideas on this are welcome.

OK which challenge do you prefer? I will be counting comments as votes for or against so tell me what you are interested in and how you would like to see the challenge shaped.

This weeks TAST stitch

With Christmas just around the corner lots of green and red thread is being dusted off and used. I thought this week we could do a stitch that creates really easy Trees. It is called thorn stitch. There is another thorn stitch used in mountmellick embroidery but this is not it. They both just happen to have the same names.
After last week I thought people would appreciate a simple stitch as well.

How to work thorn stitch

First create a long single straight stitch.

Working from top to bottom bring your needle out on the left hand side of the straight stitch a little to one side.
Take the thread diagonally across the straight stitch and insert it to the right of the straight stitch and bring the needle out on the left. Take the thread across and insert it to the right as illustrated in the photograph. The stitch is a bit like half a herringbone stitch.
Work down the straight stitch making the stitches larger as you go.

These stitches can be arranged like a tree as in the photograph or you can couch long threads to a piece of work working these either evenly across the couching thread or graduating the size from small to large. Or you can make one side of the stitch larger than the other. This is very effective if you swing the stitch in a circle. It is a simple stitch but extremely versatile and the more you experiment with it the more you realise what can be done.

That’s it for this week. Remember to swing by and leave a comment preferably on this page, so that people can follow the link and see what you have done. There is a Take a stitch Tuesday flickr group which you can browse

 

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Of the two challenges proposed my preference is the second. The first (with suggested design elements and or stitches) just doesn't feel as open to a large variety of fiber artists to me...

I've been toying with my own challenge for the coming year, and am heavily leaning towards the idea of a challenge of an amount of time each day/week I'll spend on "old" fiber arts projects. I want to ensure that I'm not just starting new things, and I find committing to the process the most motivating thing for me...

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterquiltpixie

Sharon
I would really enjoy a design challenge (including theme and maybe stitches and colour suggestions) and probably once a month rather than weekly. This I might manage to achieve as it would allow for all the things that life throws in the way.

The declared project would be too easy for me to put off the declaration - I would probably still be deciding what it might be by the time the month was over.

Thanks for your generosity in organising something like this

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterMargB

I like the idea of a design challenge each month. I like Kate's ideas of colors, shapes, themes, etc because it is broad enough to include many forms of embroidery.

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterceleste

Sharon I too like the idea of a monthly design challenge as I could work that around my fabric books, it would give me time to work properly on it and hopefully at the end of the year I would have 12 individual pages with a bit of input from you to get me going. I am not a quilter but I do quite a lot of alternate stuff so the design one would certainly be better for me.

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterPenny

I like the idea of a design challenge too. Maybe something along the lines of Illustration Friday,

http://www.illustrationfriday.com/

where someone suggests a word for the week and everyone comes up with their own interpretation. I think once a month would be about right, because design can sometimes be quite a long process.

Sharon, I've been a bit of a slacker lately on the TAST challenge. It's because I have a deadline to produce some dolls for a local craft market. Hopefully, I will have a catch-up session before the end of the year.

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterKay Susan

Oh boy. I like both ideas, but truthfully I really *need* to complete some projects and would love to have some sort of accountability in order to do so. Being required to post a picture weekly of progress would be really good to motivate me.
However, having said that, I'll more than willing to go with the flow. You always challenge me, no matter what.
Thanks SHaron!
Cheers
Mary Anne

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterMary Anne

I like the design idea - colour/theme/stitch etc the best, probably once a month, rather than weekly - but do I recall you saying that you are not a 'theme' person?

I also like the declutter/stash buster idea - at the moment I am trying to use up some of my stash so I will probably be doing both! I think people who are trying to use up their stash could probably combine it with a design challenge (dont know how this would work with UFOs - I dont find my UFO's challenging in an inspirational way - I usually finish them eventually - but I would rather a more inspiring challenge then finishing stuff I started and then didnt like anymore!)

If you went with the design idea - could it be a CQ block/ postcard/'journal' quilt/embroidery/ sampler/ whatever people are into- at the end of the year everyone would have 12 completed items which relate in some way and can be displayed whichever way is most appropriate. For example I am planning to make a quilted (crazy, embroidered, embellished) book of our family tree - each month I could make one page, and incorporate the stitches/colours/design elements in it.

whatever you decide I am up for the challenge!

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterPaula

I love the idea of a color or color palette challenge that could be explored in any textile medium. Maybe some of the colour palettes at www.colourlovers.com/blog could be inspiration.

Thanks for all you do, all year round - your blog is such a fantastic gift to all who love fiber art and creativity.

In addition to my organic foods blog, I will have a new blog coming soon called Red Thread Studio, on global textile traditions, "new" cloth (organic, sustainable) and textile art.

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterLainie

Hi Sharon
I would like to do a crazy quilt block a month and not purchase anything to finish it--everything I use must come from my stash--so will this fit into one of the categories that you have mentioned.
I would post my progress weekly.
I had been thinking of doing a block a month so this would make me accountable to someone namely you.
Anyway whatever you choose I will be in it.
Doreen
http://doreeng.blogspot.com/

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterDoreen

Why not combine the two ideas? With specific stitches or shapes for each theme, you can put in the addendum that it must be from stash ... voila - the Stashbuster Design Challenge.

I meant to participate in the Take a Stitch, but I've been swamped by RL all year. It'd be interesting to do some of this, as I've finally gotten to the point where I feel confident enough to design my own stitch stuff.

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterMeg

Now that I see them laid out so succinctly, the Design Challenge appeals to me very much. I want to do more with the TAST stitches and work into more mixed media areas along with that.
I'd vote for weekly; monthly leaves too long a gap, and we tend to think we have lots and lots of time. We could be working on the same project, but from different directions or with different techniques that appear weekly.
Does that make any sense?

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterSequana

Great to see people responding

I meant to ask bloggers to blog this challenge suggestion with a link here so that over the next few days people who might not normally swing by daily can so so and leave their thoughts too.Perhaps spreading the word on discussion lists might be good too. What ever the method spread the word please.
The URl to point people to is
http://sharonb.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/take-a-stitch-tuesday-week-47/

I am leaving the voting open for a week or so and am hoping to catch a fair cross section of readers regular and not so regular

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered Commentersharonb

A design challenge sounds intruiging to me, and open ended enough that it can include many interpretations. The challenges each month could be varied: one might be use of certain colors, another of certain themes, and another might be using some specific threads. With that changing dynamic, we can get a whole variety of work and ideas with some people participating in some, but maybe not others. I will blog about the challenge suggestion ...

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterCheryl Anderson

I like both challenges and want to suggest a twist...Why not take a picture at the beginning of the month and declare what you are planning to do...then at the end of the month you can show what you did.
For those who want a little help, you could suggest the "design" suggestion for the month and if you did not have a specific
project to work on, you could use the design aspect to challenge yourself.

Thanks as always for the inspiration.
CQMadhatter

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered Commenternina

When you first mentioned this Sharon, my first thought was a project a month, the theme being the month. Each month has any number of themes attached to it ie: colour, flower, element, star signs, seasons, personal events, traditional holidays....you get the idea. These would leave it open for any kind of media, and alot of different options for people to choose from, with the main aim being that the stitcher has a series of 12 "somethings" at the end of the year, be they quilt blocks, a fibre book, postcards etc.
My preference would be a theme with a few key elements to be incorporated in the months project.

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJo in NZ

Hi Sharon, I like Kate's idea of having colour, shape and theme.
Kay Susan's for the word a week with self interpretation.
Sequana's idea for doing more with TAST stitches.
Actually everyone has great ideas so I'd go along with what the majority want, though I would prefer a monthly input.

It is very good of you to extend yourself once again on our behalf.

Maureen

http://crazyqstitcher.wordpress.com/

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered Commentercrazyqstitcher

I prefer the design challenge. I don't have a lot of projects to clear out, or stash to use up.

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterSusan

Hi Sharon,
A monthly design challenge sounds good! A weekly one scares me, I'm not sure I would have enough time in one week. Someone pointed out that a month may be too long. So why not consider two weeks?
And the thorn stitch comes at a right time, I'm going to do some postcard today, it may be quite useful.
I've finished my samples of last week, just have to make the picture and post it. Later in the morning.

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterVero

I like both ideas, and would be happy to do either.

I think the first one should be monthly, and limited to a theme or colour - asking to include certain stitches or fibres may put off people who are not familiar with them.

I'm already trying to use up as much of my stash as I can, so if I have to decide one way or the other, I'll plump for the design challenge.

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterNic

Hi ya'll

A design challenge on a monthly basis sounds right up my alley.what i like about these challenges is the discipline and structure they provide.The learning and good company go without saying:)

neki desu

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterneki rivera

I like Meg's idea of combining the two but if I have to chose I like the design challenge,particularly colour or as Kay Susan suggested a word and once a month would be fine.

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterPat

I was also thinking along the lines that Jo in NZ suggested- a project with a theme of the month, inspired by the month itself. The challenge in interpreting the month becomes both a design challenge and/or a stash buster, depending on your stash levels. It would be interesting to see how northern and southern hemispheres might differ in colour interpretation.
Thanks for co-coordinating this for us all.

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterthreadspider

Hi Sharon, I am enjoying your PLOS class and I would like to participate in the challenge next year. For me, the key drawcard is to try something new and to be challenged by all the wonderful talent that you attract. Therefore, a design challenge would be perfect for me. I am not fussed whether it is based on stash busting or not (my stash is limited and would be busted quickly!)! A totally selfdirected challenge would not be as good for me because I am not at the stage of being able to think up a really challenging project from scratch. My suggestion is that for the less experienced, we would likely get better results if given some guidance from you. Cheers, Mara
PS. this is my first post to your blog - in reference to your previous "why don't people respond to the blog" question, my problem is that I cannot in the place I live (you know the story) because the blog does not work properly. Today I am outside that particular country so I can respond! I would have loved to respond earlier............

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterMara

Hi Sharon,
I like Penny's and Jo's idea. For a long time I am playing with thought to make a fiber book. This would be a real challenge to me and as Jo said; at the end of the year one could have 12 nice pages.
We could show the progress of the pages on our blogs or Flickr. It is always nice to get feedback :)
Thank you so much for all the time you put in it. A happy stitcher this week, with an easy one ;))
Ati.

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAti

I like the idea of a design challenge and would prefer monthly, but if we go with monthly, I think we should post progress including initial thoughts and planning so that responses keep coming throughout the month.

I don’t have a huge stash, so stash busting could be a bit restrictive for me, nor do I want to buy a load of new stuff every month, so I’d prefer to avoid colour or specific threads/techniques.

However, I do like the idea of a loose theme for interpretation, several good ones have been suggested; shape, stitch combinations, months of the year. How about a couple of lines from a poem?

Perhaps we could start the year declaring our chosen format; quilt block, post card, journal page, etc

Thanks for giving you time to organising us again.

CA

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered Commentercoral-seas

Me again Sharon
I have posted a message on my blog about next years challenge
Doreen
http://doreeng.blogspot.com/

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterDoreen

I've not got very many UFO's so my vote is for the design challenge in some way but as a few others have suggested perhaps use some of your stash (if you have any)in the design to use it up. I'd like to use some of the TAST stitches in more adventurous ways than I've been doing lately. I also think monthly would be just right.

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterSusan D

Hi Sharon, I love the idea of a monthly design challenge. Wow! A block per month, based on a theme to be created into a quilt when completed! That would be so great!

I'll admit, I became a little bored with TAST. My personal focus is not on having a variety of stitches to choose from (and many stitches didn't work on my projects) but rather on composition and balancing a design using color. I love working with themes and having a focal point to play off of. And since I see my projects through to the end (no ufo's for me) this would stir up some serious creativity and it's something I personally wouldn't become bored with.

The idea of an actual project is the perfect opportunity for stitchers to share techniques as well!

I like it Sharon and if this is what you choose to go with, I'm there!

Pam

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterPam Kellogg

I have really enjoyed the 100 days and the TAST projects and have got a lot out of them, learning and developing the various stitches, and having something to show for it at the end. Sharon, your series have really enriched my stitching life!
I've found I can cope with something where you can do a lot or a little, depending on inspiration and time available. I don't really want to have to think too hard about it because I have other things going on involving as much hard thinking as I can manage. My stash is what I use anyway these days, and I am already trying to do something with ufo's.
So probably the design option appeals more than the other, but with ideas that can be worked in depth by those who want to put a lot of thought in and more instantly by those who don't. I don't ask much!!!

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterBarbara

Forgot this point - a weekly thing is ok if it is simple, otherwise monthly gives more opportunity to get something done.

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterBarbara

Hello Everybody,

I really share Jo's (in NZ) and Meg's Stashbuster Design Challenge ideas. Just keep in mind BEGINNERS! I am thinking of a challenge that beginners could manage and not feel too daunted about, and experienced embroiderers could enjoy too (by making it more elaborate). Furthermore, to move from TAST to design would be a a good way of applying the stitches in a creative way.

Ciao
Claudia

November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterA. C. M.

Sharon, I guess I like parts of both. Pam's idea sounds like something I feel, I love the direction of maybe color or theme for the month, but a weekly check in, without that folks will slide off the task, ahh, I'm sliding, help! LOL I vote for a combination. Once a month project, but with weekly check ups. All I know is what ever you eventually come up with will be created with wonderful outcome. I'm waiting for January !

November 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterReneOrgeron

Sharon, I like the design idea, but I also need the ufo challange. So, either one sounds good to me.

Gay

November 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterGay Antrim

Thank you so much, Sharon, for hosting the TAST this past year. I haven't participated, but I have been collecting the instructions, and hope to some day make a band sampler. I'm not a designer, mostly a stitcher, so a design project would not be motivating to me, but finishing past projects certainly would be.
I don't usually comment, because I don't feel like I have a contribution to offer, but I do stop by every day to see what is going on. Thank you for your generosity in providing this connection to other stitchers around the world.
Jane from Illinois

November 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJane Compeau

I would love a design element challenge - and even started looking at setting up a blog to record my challenge progress. I have not had any interest in having a blog until now! But now I want to join in the challenge fun too.

I have no interest in a UFO type challenge, because I rarely have much in the of UFOs. The way my mind works is to not start something new until the old one is finished; and I am not keen on having a couple of things on the go at once (except for one ongoing knitting project which I pick up and put down as I end one embroidery project and start another).

I would love a challenge around colours, and colour combinations, and shapes. If it is monthly, I think we need some call and repsonsoe mechanism to encourage postings throughout the month. I have seen so many monthly challenges around the internet lose focus and challengees because 4 weeks between being "seen" is a long time and it becomes too easy to put the challenge on the backburner.

November 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJocelyn

Hi Sharon,
First I will thank you for the TAST , although I am a bit silent, I am trying to stitch every week , it goes slowly, but it is still going ! I think You are very kind and generous to continue next year . I would prefer a design challenge , with a theme based on stitches, better then on colours.
Happy stitching¨
Jeanne

November 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJeanne

I could see myself working on WISP's regularly and blogging about my progress. I have a sidebar on my blog devoted to that very subject which doesn't seem to need updating very often. I have so much wanted to do the TAST and 100 details but realize the futility of beginning yet another new project....
So if your readers vote this way, I would be happy to be participating.
:Diane

November 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterDiane

I too love the idea of a monthly design challenge - Thanks so much for all you do :)

November 21, 2007 | Unregistered Commentergoatgoddess

Hi Sharon,
I love the monthly design challenge idea and my vote is for that. And I´d go with CA about posting the progress weekly, including the design project, maybe we could use a visual journal along that.
Thank you for the TAST, I´m a bit slowly because of the deadlines for christmas orders, but I intend to have all done!

November 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterGlaucia

I really like the design idea with you giving us a theme and/or color scheme to work with each month. As I envision it, each of us could choose the specific project - fiber book, quilt, samplers, etc. - and end up the year with a set of 12 whatevers. I don't have a lot of UFO's, but I have been trying to use up some of my stash for the past two years. So that one would work as well. In fact, I will probably try to reduce stash anyway - so there's room for new stuff, don't you know?

November 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterLiz

I'd love a design challenge based around embellishment/stitching. I need some incentive to get out of my own box and try things I haven't thought of myself. ;-)

November 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJess

I like the design idea it will give us a chance to use all the wonderfull stitches we have learned this year. Whatever you decide I will be enjoying . Thank you so much for sharing . I read your blog daily and can hardly wait for the next.
Thanks,
Carol

November 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterCarol

My choice would be for a design challenge each week.
Domi from Paris, France

November 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterDomi

My choice would be for a design challenge each week. I love your blog and all the ideas I can find from what you share with us. Thank you for the time you spend with us.

Domi from Paris, France

November 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterDomi

Hi Sharon
My week 47 sample is up on my blog and it is my version of Corin Forest before the bushfires.
Thanks for giving us an easy one this week.
Doreen
http://doreeng.blogspot.com/

November 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterDoreen

Hi Sharon,
What an interesting topic, thanks for bringing it up. Comments are the lifeblood of a blogging community. For instance, I belong in the stitching/blogging community like the one you have mentioned here. Some people are so involved that they get a multitude of comments, others are more to themselves and get a few comments. This aspect can motivate involvement. No matter which group one is in, they prefer more comments than less. I am fortunate because it is rare that anyone ever leaves any kind of negative comments, the idea is like the old saying: "if you can't say something nice..." I have a numerous amount of blogs in my google reader that I follow and when they have something in a post that inspires me to comment, this is when I comment. I don't feel like I should be required to comment on issues that I am not feeling something about but it is a balancing act. This is because whenever people leave a comment on my blog, I truly want to return the kindness and I almost always do. If it is a new to me blog, I immediately add them to my reader and check out their blog. I have left many comments on other's blogs and some have never returned the favor, I frown on this because it just seems inconsiderate. As for replying to comments left, I try not to leave them in the same post comments because the person who left it may not return to read the follow up. I will usually go to their blog and within the comment I am leaving for their post, I will add my thoughts on their comment that was left for me. If possible and I have a lengthy reply I will e-mail them, especially if it is something heartfelt. Whenever I have left a lengthy heartfelt comment for someone else they usually reply in kind (I have my e-mail available for anyone wanting to get in depth as well)but not always, those cases are somewhat disappointing. I have made some good blogging friends this way as we can e-mail back and forth after the initial 'meet and greet' and get to know one another on a more personal level. I hope this response helps in the research you are doing on this subject and again thanks for the interesting and well thought out topic.

November 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterTracy Jenkins

Hi Sharon, you said on Week 46

Does this go with the song "you always hurt the one you love"? don't curse me too much, I really love you all

I have added weeks 46 and 47 and need a rest now.
Maureen

http://crazyqstitcher.wordpress.com/

November 22, 2007 | Unregistered Commentercrazyqstitcher

I think that a challenge monthly based on the previous year TASTs would complete and expand on work previously done. How about taking all the TAST from January, a theme and then creating a design for that theme using any or all of the stitches as the primary stitchwork for that month-Same with February, March, etc.
I think participants would probably need to fix on a particular project form whether that be a journal, quilt, ATC, but all could use the same groups of stitches and themes.
I had intended to follow and do all of TAST this year, but I suffer from 'lack of follow through' disorder!

November 23, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterChristine

I really like Christines idea about incorporating TAST in next years challenge. I was a bit miffed I only discovered you in week 44! Her idea may also address the weekly vs monthly issue -four weeks of stitches to incorporate into a month long project!

November 23, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterPaula

Hi Sharon
TAST has become a part of my life. Sorry I haven't been posting lately - my camera died, but I am still going, while I decide on a replacement.
I would love to take part in another challenge. The design one sounds great, so I can keep using my TAST stitches and maybe start to explore more of what they can do. Weekly would be good for momentum - or weekly/fornightly updates on a monthly challenge.

November 24, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterLuci F

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